>>Everyone here in the Netherlands, can make an appointment with their familiy doctor, have an appt today (if urgent, else next day), have a consult without waiting for hours, get a prescription, get their medicines without drawing their wallet once. I have never, ever had to open my wallet for any medical or dental procedure. Even last summer when my son hurt his knee while I was on holliday in Turkey, I did not have to open my wallet for that x-ray and consult. Only the painkillers of $5 I had to pay cash.
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>and if they consider you to old for the treatment, they can withhold treatment and basically let you die. That's a really good system.

Nonense, it is illegal to withhold patients from treatment that can save their lives. I guess you listened too much into those nutcases that run for president and tell you all kind of lies arround healthcare somewhere else to scare you off. The neighbour of my mother turned 101 a month ago. He's still living on his own, but had some blatter problem. Not having anymore than just standard health insurance they did surgery to have his blatter drained. Unless you don't think 101 is what you consider old, I think you've got a (deliberately) twisted picture of 'socialised' Healthcare.

My wife's aunt turned 85 and got diagnosed with colon cancer. The doctors did leave the decission what to do to the patient and essentially told here that it would be a rough ride, certainly because of her age, but they'd expect full 5 year control of the cancer. She had the surgery a month ago, and sure it was tough, and still is, but she seems to be recovering.