>>Everyone here in the Netherlands, can make an appointment with their familiy doctor, have an appt today (if urgent, else next day), have a consult without waiting for hours, get a prescription, get their medicines without drawing their wallet once. I have never, ever had to open my wallet for any medical or dental procedure. Even last summer when my son hurt his knee while I was on holliday in Turkey, I did not have to open my wallet for that x-ray and consult. Only the painkillers of $5 I had to pay cash.
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>and if they consider you to old for the treatment, they can withhold treatment and basically let you die. That's a really good system...

It's baaaaaack! "Death Panels" is fear mongering of the very worst kind.