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Yeah, O wins on Healthcare!!
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29/06/2012 17:47:22
John Baird
Coatesville, Pennsylvania, United States
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>>Nonense, it is illegal to withhold patients from treatment that can save their lives. I guess you listened too much into those nutcases that run for president and tell you all kind of lies arround healthcare somewhere else to scare you off. The neighbour of my mother turned 101 a month ago. He's still living on his own, but had some blatter problem. Not having anymore than just standard health insurance they did surgery to have his blatter drained. Unless you don't think 101 is what you consider old, I think you've got a (deliberately) twisted picture of 'socialised' Healthcare.
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>You misunderstood my meaning. I wasn't talking about the U.S., I was talking about your country. To quote a fact sheet about Euthanasia in the Netherlands:
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>"Right-to-die advocates often point to Holland as the model for how well physician-assisted, voluntary euthanasia for terminally-ill, competent patients can work without abuse. But the facts indicate otherwise"
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>"However, as the result of various court cases, doctors who directly kill patients or help patients kill themselves will not be prosecuted as long as they follow certain guidelines."
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>"The main argument in favor of euthanasia in Holland has always been the need for more patient autonomy — that patients have the right to make their own end-of-life decisions. Yet, over the past 20 years, Dutch euthanasia practice has ultimately given doctors, not patients, more and more power. The question of whether a patient should live or die is often decided exclusively by a doctor or a team of physicians."
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>"The Netherlands Cancer Institute told of approximately 30 cases a year where doctors ended patients’ lives after the patients intentionally had been put into a coma by means of a morphine injection. The Cancer Institute physician then stated that these deaths were not considered “euthanasia” because they were not voluntary, and that to have discussed the plan to end these patients’ lives with the patients would have been “rude” since they all knew they had incurable conditions."
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>It goes on and on talking about doctors and health officials killing its own people. In any other country, this would be considered genocide. The mere fact that you can comment on our health care system while you tacitly support the killing of your fellow countrymen by not doing anything about it is the utmost in arrogance. Look to your own house first before casting aspersions on others.
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>The last time I brought this up, you did a quiet tap dance and never addressed the question, I fully expect the same again.

Euthanasia is a totally different issue, a moral issue.
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