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War on Poverty : $1 Trillion/Year Failure
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16/07/2012 21:40:11
John Ryan
Captain-Cooker Appreciation Society
Taumata Whakatangi ..., New Zealand
 
 
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16/07/2012 19:43:53
John Baird
Coatesville, Pennsylvania, United States
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>>Sure you can pull the same kind of commentary from the bible, but how many Christians are sending their children to markets here in the U.S., with bombs attached to their chests?

Yes, but how many Muslims are sending their children to markets in the US with bombs attached to their chests? If assertions about the Koran were true, you'd be facing thousands of episodes every year from your large Muslim population. Clearly it's not so simple.

Here's something else to consider: in the Presidential election in 2000, 80% of US Muslims supported George Bush. Yep, in those days Muslims were overwhelmingly Republican voters. By 2004 this support had fallen by at least 50% to the benefit of Kerry or other candidates. By 2008, Obama got between 66% and 90% of the Muslim vote. So in 8 years, "something" big happened across the Muslim community, with immigration or other demographic changes nowhere near enough to explain it. Hopefully nobody will assert that it is because Obama is a secret Muslim or because of his race when the trend was obvious by 2004 with over 50% support already transferred from one white Christian candidate to another. Assuming we can also agree that the Koran didn't suddenly change, what could it have been? Put yourself in their shoes to answer the question and "the Koran made them do it" ideology may start to look like one of the culprits rather than an explanation.
"... They ne'er cared for us
yet: suffer us to famish, and their store-houses
crammed with grain; make edicts for usury, to
support usurers; repeal daily any wholesome act
established against the rich, and provide more
piercing statutes daily, to chain up and restrain
the poor. If the wars eat us not up, they will; and
there's all the love they bear us.
"
-- Shakespeare: Coriolanus, Act 1, scene 1
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