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>>Assuming you were born in PA and that you have a birth certificate. Some of the people we're talking about were born in places and times where they don't have one.
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>We're talking about people "born in places and times where they don't have" a birth certificate yet they came here legally without any documentation and after becomming a citizen they have no proof of doing so?

I'm not talking about immigrants. I'm talking about old folks who were born out in the countryside. I heard last night about a old black man who's been voting in PA for 40+ years. He was delivered by a midwife in North Carolina and no birth certificate was filed. Unless this law is repealed or overturned, he'll never be able to vote again.


>>Assuming you can go at those times without losing your job.
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>Again, who are these people who work M-F 8-5 52 weeks a year?

They're poor people who are working every hour they can to try to feed their families. They may be taking 3 buses to get to work.


>>Bottom line for me is that putting impediments in the way of people exercising their legitimate right to vote is unconscionable.
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>"Legitimate" is the very issue. How do we determine legitimacy without identity verification? Shouldn't the voter have any responsibility to prove themselves or should we take everyone's word for it? Why even require registration in the first place?

So based on very few documented cases of fraud, you're willing to risk large numbers of citizens being denied the right to vote? What trade-off is fair to you? How many legitimate voters denied to prevent 1 fraudulent vote?



>Besides, we put much stronger impediments in the way of other legitimate constutional rights? Hate speech laws & gun restrictions to name just two that have been perfectly "conscionable" to you in the past.

I don't think you've ever heard me speak in favor of hate speech laws. I'm in the "I detest what you say, but will fight for your right to say it" crowd.

As for gun restrictions, there is legitimate room to discuss what the second amendment was meant to say.

Tamar