Ok...so, following your logic, because I get a refund from the IRS (because I pay in more during the year), I'm making no contribution at all?



>>How is that they use more of those services: In a war they have less properties to lose
>non-applicable in the US. What properties have any Americans lost (at least since 1865).
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>*they use less the roads as they either use public transit (which they pay) or they only have one car
>Public transportation in the US is not even CLOSE to being paid for by fares LOL. See also Amtrack - a perennial billion dollar sinkhole.
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>*they pollute way less and add to that they do not use planes, boats ski jets etc
>what does this have to do with taxes? I was referring to things like EPA regulations, etc which are used to protect all Americans - not just the rich.
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>*they also produce less garbage and waste less energy as they cannot afford all the luxuries the rich can
>Again, how is this related to taxation? Garbage is a local issue. Energy? I still don't see the link. Energy is fairly close to being paid for by usage. But even so, they would be less likely to use energy-efficient cars. appliances, etc
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>*they are safer as, again they have less properties to lose.
>Sounds fishy to me. I'm not going to Google but I suspect there is a much higher rate of usage of police and fire resources amongst lower incomes than higher.
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>*The only thing they might use more is health care system... oh, wait a second....
>The ONLY thing???? That is absolutely laughable! How about entire govenment departments dedicated to food stamps, aid to mothers, unemployment, reduced cost school lunches, subsidized transportation, and REFUNDS on a tax return for which they made NO contribution???
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>*Furthermore those claims that cry about 50% of people not paying taxes ignore the fact that they are indeed paying, albeit indirectly thru highly underpaid jobs which for some here its they fault for they do not work hard enough...
>Exactly how is getting paid minimum wage - or being unemployed - a TAX that they pay?? One half of all Americans conttribute nothing - or worse yet, get a REFUND - for trillions in services available.
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>Our local governments provide services to ALL citizens with a flat tax. It is clearly possible and fair. The rest of the argument boils down to social policy making...not a tax "system" problem.