Erik, FWIW I took the example from Tastrade. They have a method to save the Bar position and a Method to restore the bar position called from the Destroy and Init events of the tool bar respectively. They save it to an ini file but the same techniques can be applied to saving it in the registry. They diferentiate between Docked and Undocked by checking for a comma in the saved position. Take a look at Tastrade and you'll see what I mean. If you need any more info let me know. HTH

>I am building the ability in my toolbar class for the toolbars to record and remember their position and docked status to and from the registry, in effect remembering the user's settings. I am running into some trouble because I can't find a good time to record the docked status. It appears that in a toolbar's destroy method, oToolbar.docked is always .F.. So I tried it in the After dock and undock methods. The After dock works but the Undock method shows oToolbar.docked still = .T. Aaargh.
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>Has anyone else done this, and do you have any advice for me?