Ah, 'one of the effects'... That's a good one. I must remember this one. Whenever a user comes to me with a complaint ("Arrgh, you see this bug?!") I can always tell them that it's not a bug but one of the effects of the design. :)
>I have no recollection, other than it was a long time ago, here in the UT.
>
>Nor do I think that anybody ever said that it was by design, but rather that is was one of the effects of the design.
>
>
>
>>To be honest, I expected this reply. :)
>>
>>Can you recall who it was here on the UT that learned you and others that it is by design? Was it someone from MS or simply someone else?
>>
>>>You wrote: It cannot possibly be by design, as it has nowhere been documented.
>>>
>>>I disagree with your assertion. Simply because something is not documented does not mean it is not a result of the design. Some features
>>>are only "documented" by word of mouth, which is how Iearned of this, long ago, here in the UT.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi Doug,
>>>>
>>>>Your Nope is simply incorrect. It cannot possibly be by design, as it has nowhere been documented.
>>>>
>>>>The reason you mention is far sought, as it would have been only a simple extra piece of code to re-initialize the properties, without almost any impact on the performance.
>>>>
>>>>I am also almost sure that this flaw is not occurring in scx's.
>>>>
>>>>>Hi Peter.
>>>>>
>>>>>>'By-design' may be what has been told to you, but to me that sounds like a rationalisation, to hide the real reason: a design flaw or simply a blind spot for this when implementing it, in both cases a flaw they somehow didn't want to repair.
>>>>>
>>>>>Nope, Jim is right -- it's by design, and has been there since VFP 3.0. The reason is the way VFP handles classes: a class is a template for an object. As Jim notes, when you instantiate a class for the first time, the class is read into memory and any properties with "=" are evaluated. VFP then copies the class definition to create the object. Instantiating it again creates another copy, but with the same property values as the class. So, properties with "=" are evaluated for the first object only.
>>>>>
>>>>>(Thanks to Christof Wollenhaupt for explaining this to me.)
>>>>>
>>>>>Doug
Groet,
Peter de Valença
Constructive frustration is the breeding ground of genius.
If there’s no willingness to moderate for the sake of good debate, then I have no willingness to debate at all.
Let's develop superb standards that will end the holy wars.
"There are three types of people: Alphas and Betas", said the beta decisively.
If you find this message rude or offensive or stupid, please take a step away from the keyboard and try to think calmly about an eventual a possible alternative explanation of my message.
