>>Both your methods find the first recno() in the table depending on the current index order, but it's not what Alex asked for....! He wants the recno() of the top visible record in the grid.
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>Are you sure?
Yes, unless my ability to understand English (and Alejandro) has broken down completely.
>The question was:
>>>>Is there a way to find which record shows in the first row of a grid?
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>Now, I'm not sure that I answered properly :-)