>>>>>Yeah right...
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>>>>IMO he handles disengagement from Iraq while droning on the Taliban nicely balanced.
>>>>Also he did not fumble Osama - and actually I like the way he presents that.
>>>>Not basking in glory that Osama was found during his tenure but having guts and luck for the operation.
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>>>Luckily he had old Hillary to force him into actually getting Osama.
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>>Where did you get that from? IAC the President is the one who gives that order, not the Sec. of State.
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>Just as a point of clarification, I think both Obama's disciples and the Neocon Hawk Right are choosing to be ignorant of Obama's actual national security policies and the record ( each for their own, very different, reasons.)
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>The key players are John Brennan - deputy NSA and Gen James Cartright as well as some folks off the books. Obama is very much involved in the planning and approval of an extremely effective - and incredibly ruthless - targeted killing program that as a candidate he would have exploited shamelessly as political fodder ( and did in similar cases in 2008 ) throwing red meat to his base had it been the work of Bush or Cheney.
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>Obama is not what he appears to be in so many ways - and that is definitely both to his credit and his discredit. Like most people, he's very complex. Both his followers and his harshest critics are much more ... simple.
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>He is perhaps the most cynical opportunist to be President since Richard Nixon ( though if Romney wins he could take a shot at the title. )

That's a pretty strong statement. Maybe I just have blinders on and am unwilling to see that part of him. What you call cynicism, I prefer to view as realism. I do believe he possesses a genuine desire to do the right thing.

Re actual national security policies and key players, I am more than happy to concede you know a lot more about that than I do.