OK,

Here is what I did :

1) Create my toolbar class using CREATE \ CLASS \ TOOLBAR.

2) Saved MYTOOLBAR class.

3) Created a toolbar based on MYTOOLBAR class. The problem with
that is that to be able to visually create the toolbar based on
MYTOOLBAR class, I need to have a form open, and the form designer
then tells you that you need to have a formset if you want to add the
toolbar.

To get around that I temporarily make my default FORM CLASS in
TOOLS \ OPTIONS \ FORMS, the MYTOOLBAR class, and then click on
NEW \ FORM and that gives me a toolbar ON ITS OWN that I can edit
to my heart's content without needing to have it as part of a
formset.

4) The problem arises when I use the toolbar in code. Even after releasing it
through all the available methods, including CLEAR ALL, etc...,
when I try to MODIFY FORM on it to go and add code to it, say,
I get FILE IN USE error.

Now, it could be that I am doing it the wrong way as regards being able to
visually create a toolbar and design it, without having it as part
of a formset. If so, then I would love to know the way I should really do it.

Regards,
Michel.
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>>Bruce,
>>
>>I can do that too. However, I have a different requirement. See below the response I gave someone else. I would be interested if when you try to do
>>the same, you too get the same FILE IN USE error.
>>
>>Michel.
>>
>Michel, I would be interested in what you are trying to chnage that you need to have it in a form. But I think the .NULL. principle applies anyway. In your Destroy or app exit set the form.name to .NULL. and see what happens.