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>The interesting thing about the momentum of HTML5/Javascript UI is that if you have a legacy VFP app with proper separation of concerns, it's very easy to use VFP as the server backend to that UI. VFP just happens to do data and string handling very well. Using WebConnection, ActiveVFP, or an embedded ActiveX webserver, VFP will quickly and simply serve up JSON or XML.
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>FWIW: I tried Knockout but it didn't feel "right". I subsequently tried Angular and prefer it. I'm also using Bootstrap.css responsive library.
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That's interesting about the VFP server backend. I am going in next week to look at a VFE app that may need some goodies. It is VFE so I know the separation of concerns is good (for a VFP app). The data is DBC/DBF and it is in house client server but now that I think about it since one of my major objections to further VFP work is UI, this might be nice combination, since there are so many good UI options if one uses an HTML5/jscript front end ( this thing is all about scheduling and I believe the Wijmo stuff may do the trick nicely )

John Papa got me excited about Knockout which makes even more sense to me with Backbone models - hence my interesting in Knockback. Since I have found other postings of yours in this area very knowledgeable I will also look into Angujlar. There has been a request on Pluralsight to add Angular material as well.

Thanks for the ideas and Merry Christmas.

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>>http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-phasing-out-some-of-its-expression-design-tools-7000009116/
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>>For those of us who have danced the Microsoft Dance many times, the writing on the wall should be clear...
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>>The XAML oriented UI tools be phased out ( dropped ) and capabilities will be added to the already great (IMHO) VS ... which has increasingly strong support for javascript and HTML5 ( and which has more an more extension for the like of Coffeescript ... )
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>>Silverlight is already dropped into the Redmond Oubliette.
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>>Finding MS references to XAML and WPF will someday be like looking for pictures of Trotsky or Yezhov in a Stalin era Soviet textbook.
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>>This could not be any more clear if that had shot the XAML team on Channel 9 ( and buried them with the Linq to Sql group )
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>>And yet 5 years from now there are going to be a bunch of developers feeling "blind-sided" and abandoned.
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>>(And others who will wonder if there is a way to port their Foxpro 2.0 Dos screens to jquery-UI or if they can use DBFs in a cloud and still let the user Browse and GO TOP :- ) Some things never change.
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>>The VS stack will be a service API and variety of ORM flavors and jquery / html5 all working nicely in VS. No problem using C# and EF as part of the equation with .NET classes handling a lot of heavy lifting on the server side. (and still being able to swap all that out for a non-MS backend)
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>>For my money, that's a win. I've been playing with Knockback.js and I'm impressed though it is still a little daunting when I am new to both Knockout and Backbone, but so much of this stuff really makes sense. Really have to shake myself every once in a while to not hang on too hard to things I already know, but man, this stuff is cool ! I have not enjoyed development this much for at least 10 years.


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