>>>>>there are enormous differences between the swiss and the americans, like I've explained earlier. In short it has to do with cultural, economic and social differences. But getting a handle on that is impossible as its what makes americans... americans. Getting the a handle on the widespread availability of guns, esspecially to the ones who should not own a gun, however is much more doable.
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>>>I do agree that Switzerland has less of an underclass problem than many other nations, meaning that many/most citizens never are exposed to the sorts of troubles that start there. But comparing middle class to middle class, maybe Americans are more courteous and brought up in a more socially adept fashion. Certainly a mother struggling to get her stroller up some stairs in a mall would agree with this compared to Basel where assistance might consist of a hausfrau loudly berating because the mother dragged her stroller in the wrong door. Even some Swiss apologize for the behavior of other Swiss in such situations! The flip side of this coin is that the hausfrau thinks her behavior is normal and (correctly) believes that her own child in school is perfectly safe even though there are automatic rifles all over the place. The big question is how to take the good without too much of the not so good?
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>>Wrong question IMO, how to cut out all the bad, with the least possible good ?
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>>The fact of the matter remains, and that is that the American society is a whole lot more violent and trigger happy than the swiss. The bigger question is how many innocent victims are acceptable before the US finally takes some action to this madness? Currently is about 30.000 a year. So how many are acceptable: 50.000, 100.000, 1.000.000
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>Many Americans consider those deaths the price of freedom.

In my view, that is exactly what is wrong and totally nuts.

Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose.

Freedom and "Can do whatever you want" are two different things.