I happened to use the appwiz was an initial model for an application object, and in my case, when I first started using VFP, TASTRADE didn't work for my situation--as a framework anyway. I used it more as coding examples.

I was just curious, because using a formset based appobject would help with managing toolbars. (Yes, I know, it's not *cool* to like anything about formsets :-)

>Yep. That it is. I copied the MAIN program and the main app almost in total, corrected a few problems and took out those methods I did not need and built from there. The underlying approach they took is good and formed a solid and fast basis to get into this Object Oriented stuff. I haven't had any problems with the custom class. Have you heard of any problems with this approach?
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>>Thanks, Bruce. Isn't the TASTRADE app object based on the custom class?