>As long as the folks on your side of the fence keep framing this as "takers" vs. "makers," I think you're likely to keep losing.
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>I just call 'em like I see 'em. All the people taking food stamps, welfare checks, Obama phones etc. etc want to make certain that they keep getting their hand outs. While having a Republican in office does not necessarily guarantee lower spending on these sorts of things, the perception is that it does.
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>I think that you are correct - we will keep losing as long as the takers keep voting themselves money and the makers stay at home during the elections.
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>It's awfully hard to compete with Santa Clause.

You continue to show that you do not understand what motivates people like me at all.

Tamar