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Living in a computer simulation
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14/01/2013 13:07:08
Dragan Nedeljkovich (Online)
Now officially retired
Zrenjanin, Serbia
 
 
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14/01/2013 10:17:56
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Science & Medicine
Category:
Quantum
Miscellaneous
Thread ID:
01562109
Message ID:
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>>>>>That's not where I was headed at all.
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>>>>Where to, then? If the purpose is not to learn more about how we (manage to stay a)live, what makes us tick, and as we are the zoon politikon, what makes our societies - then what? Or, rather, why? What is the purpose of any simulation but to simulate in it what we can't do in real life?
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>>>The purpose is to compare the model to the measurements of the model made within the model., to see if that's the right way to understand quantum mechanics.
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>>That sounds like a very expensive solipsism.
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>It is unrelated to solipsism. Take another shot at it.

Explain how "compare the model to the measurements of the model made within the model" includes anything that is not inside the model.

And even if it's comparing the observations of the model against the calculated results based on those measurements, it's still inside the model.

As for any chances that the model would have any semblance to the real world, I don't see how it would differ from any other model. The sheer number of particles (at all levels, even if assume we do nothing smaller than an electron) that would have to be included would require computational space with more mass than a planet. Or at least storage space, if the interactions between particles would be processed at some speed that would be several orders of magnitude slower than the real thing - still, I don't see a way to have a complete model of a single cell, molecule by molecule. So there would have to be approximations, shortcuts, like "five thousand molecules of this in reaction to seventeen thousand of that produce..." (which we don't actually know, it's an assumption). In the end, the model remains parallel to the reality it models - the distance remains the same.

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