>>>
>>>how about
>>>
>>>IF RECCOUNT(THIS.RecordSource) = 0
>>
>>RECCOUNT ignores SET DELETED status so if I deleted a child record, RECCOUNT will always come back with at least 1.
>
>Ok, still trying here...
>

>IF EOF(THIS.RecordSource) OR BOF(THIS.RecordSource) OR DELETED(THIS.RecordSource)
>    GO TOP IN (This.RecordSource)
>    IF EOF(THIS.RecordSource)
>       APPEND BLANK IN (THIS.RecordSource)
>    ENDIF
>ENDIF
>

I just realized that if other parent records have child records then this won't work. The only way I can think of that this might work is when the grid for the child records has a RecordSource of a p-view based on the parent record. I'm using a relationship between the parent and child tables. Looks like we need solution#2 :-)