Brian,

>I have a Web page that I am using two way binding on. I need to populate some of the fields outside of the binding. The normal Bussiness Object save behavior fires the CallStateChange passing the presave parameter to push the webforms bound control values to the dataset. I though I could call the CallStateChanged outside of the save to get the dataset , row populated but Its not pulling the values from the webform. Any Ideas on how to get the changestate to populate the dataset , row outside of the save call?

Were you calling the business object's CallStateChange() method, passing the mmBusinessState.PreSaving? That should work. If it you have tried that and it's not working, let me know and I will have one of our developers get in touch with you to take a look.

Best Regards,
Kevin