>Victor, I admire your patience dealing with Rick on these matters. From my personal point of view, you are absolutely right. Thanks for this message, I have really enjoy it reading it, you express the way I feel about all these fairy tales better than I would, I wish we could share a beer or two!!!

Rick is still making rounds? Sheesh... I wish Michel would publish the number of people who twitted him out.

I, too, admire Victor's patience, specially the quixotic attempt of applying logic to religion, which is incompatible by its own definition. If it were logical, things could be proven; if they could be proven, belief wouldn't be required at all, Q.E.D.