I've found that money speaks. When you tell them that they won't get paid if someone hacks into their payroll system and that it's pretty likley due to outdated and unsecure systems, then start discussing the fines that would be levied by the government as well as paying for credit monitoring for all current and former employees, they start to listen.
>No, not really -- just stating that some of those non-English speaking people have other worries that are more immediate (to them).
Craig Berntson
MCSD, Microsoft .Net MVP, Grape City Community Influencer