>>>Ironic that the pro gun lobby are also most likely to reject the sort of government action that helps the poor destitute etc
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>>I dont believe that any government will solve the ills of society - that is not the purpose of government. The purpose of government is to perpetuate itself. Whatever it does is only a means to that end.
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>That sounds like a very cynical view of politics and government.

There is government and politics in theory. And there is government and politics in practice. My statement might be cynical in respect to theory but it is realistic in respect to practice. I need only look, now and in the past, to see what government, politicians, those with power and those that aspire to have it, have done to warrant this assertion.