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04/06/2013 17:10:38
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C# 2.0
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In 1995 there were people from India coming to all the programming houses in Silicon Valley offering to do our work for $10 an hour. Stupid companies agreed and enjoyed the consequences. I made a lot of money cleaning up the code they created.

One experience I loved was one H1B was asked to create a screen to pop up when there was a serious error. He did so with the following message: “For to be calling IT for assistance”!

Companies in Silicon Valley love to hire H1B’s. I never met one who could do his/her job. We always had to fix what they wrote. In fact one was considered to be genius as far as management was concerned. He was given a major task (NUMMI in Fremont, California under Toyota and General Motors) and said it could not be done.

I suggested I could do the job (which was mission critical to manufacturing cars and trucks) within a week. It took 1 ½ days as I used my own framework. It was used from 2001 until the plant closed down in 2010 with no downtime. That was the only time NUMMI allowed Visual FoxPro to be used.

The other problem (besides HR) is most (but not all) management. Again, I will be nice and not say more. :)







>Had a group of card-playing friends who used to work for CSC when CSC was slowly out-sourcing to India to save money. Only one is left there now and her job (and the double salary that goes with it) is to fix the code that comes back from India.
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>I left the State when it became obvious that our upper management had the attitude that 'any monkey could do my job'. Fooled them! It took 3! On top of the 3 (very good) employees who took over most of my areas of responsibilities.
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>>I worked at Ampex in Redwood City for 15 years. The company wanted to “save money”, so they built a manufacturing plant in New Mexico. That was to get away from the unions.
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>>People were hired and trained. They worked for the first two weeks and received his/her first pay check from Ampex. The following Monday no workers returned to work. Ampex had hired American Indians and they had money to spend and enjoy. They did not return to work and the plant closed down.
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>>I think that we could all write many books on the subject of employment. :)
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>>>Ok, first off - the recruiters from Austin were LYING! In 1992, if you wanted to buy a house actually IN Austin, it would cost you at least 150K - and that was for a GI Starter home on a 45 x 110 lot. Or, you could go to East Austin, where you could get a house for 85K, you just had to hope it wasn't in a neighborhood where you were dodging bullets.
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>>>I went through almost 2 years of sending out responses to job postings and hearing crickets back past the autogenerated "We got your resume" response on about 95% of them. The 5 % I got responses back on, probably 15% ended up not being what they'd posted and about 30% didn't want to pay more than 50K (below my minimum). Out of what was left, I'd have a great phone first phone interview (with HR), and great 2nd phone interview (with people who actually did the job) and a great (at least I thought so) face-to-face interview only to be told "they decided to go with someone else". I've done .Net. I've done Java. I've done SQL and DB2 so it wasn't like I was applying for things I wasn't qualified for.
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>>>That job hunt did give me a huge chuckle though...One day, as I'm perusing the latest postings I come across one that wants
>>>at least 5 years .Net and Java
>>>at least 5 years of SQL, DB2 and Oracle
>>>at least 5 years of Linux and Windows (through 7)
>>>certifications from Microsoft and Sun (Oracle would be nice too)
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>>>And for all this, they were willing to pay the princely sum of 42.5K/yr. In Austin
>>>Which is sorta the equivalent to paying 85K for a job in Monterrey.
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>>>>When I was an electronics engineer Silicon Valley was the hub of the hardware world. Around 1992 we had 60,000 unemployed electronics engineers here. Recruiters from Austin would come to visit us in large numbers and brag about how great things were in Austin. Everything is big in Texas.
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>>>>They told us that houses were $85,000 compared to the $375,000 price tag our houses cost. Lots were huge compared to our 85 foot wide lots. Everything was cheaper. Move to Austin. Some people did and they took the mentality of some Silicon Valley companies with them. If you are over 40 you are worthless!
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>>>>September of 1992 President Bush (the elder) was here running for president. A friend of mine went to a campaign meeting and asked this question: “What are you going to do for the 60,000 unemployed electronics engineers in Silicon Valley”? President Bush answered without a blink of the eye, “There are plenty of jobs at McDonalds! Next question”! This made the television news and I will never forget it!
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>>>>You have to find a way to get an interview. In 1990 I was looking for work and sent out 200 resumes in one month and received 200 thank you notes from each company that I had applied for work. I did get a job that lasted until 1993, and things changed. I had sent out 200 resumes in one month and not one company acknowledged them. So I had to reinvent myself and become a programmer.
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>>>>The job scene changes often like where to look (forget newspapers) and head hunters can be the best source at this time. Being interviewed is an art form. It helps to be well rehearsed and be a bit of an actor. Makeup! Be sure that you have the skill set the company requires. Stay up to date.
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>>>>A job fair I went to in April of 2000 at the Santa Clara, California Convention Center (Santa Clara will soon be the new home of the 49ers football team) had 1608 jobs listed. Two jobs were for Microsoft positions (one visual basic and one Windows NT) and 1606 were for Java.
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>>>>What skills are demanded today? You have to stay on top of things to have a chance at being employed.
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>>>>>Yeah, and most of those people moved (and brought the attitude) to Austin.
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>>>>>Funniest thing tho, when I finally bit the bullet and dyed the hair I got hired for a job in San Antonio sight unseen. When that contract was running out, dyed the hair again to prep for face-to-face interviews and got hired for this job (in Plano, near Dallas) sight unseen.
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>>>>>But in Austin, particularly if you're female, if you've got gray hair then you're stupid and can't learn nuthin'.
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>>>>>>Forget the preconceived notions that others believe in as if it were a religion. Here in Silicon Valley they have told us for thirty years, “If you are over 40, nobody wants you”! There are companies that actually have that attitude but I avoid them!
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>>>>>>There are those “friends” that will tell you to forget looking for a job. Your are over the hill. You are of no value. Just do not believe them and stay around positive people. Looking for a job is a full time job in itself.
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>>>>>>Tom in "Lovely Silicon Valley"
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