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Supreme Court: Police can take DNA swabs from arrestees
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06/06/2013 10:50:31
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He was guilty, guilty, guilty. I would bet my daughters' lives on that.

Enough about this.

>The prosecution must prove "beyond a reasonable doubt". With everything that was going on in the evidence custody chain, police procedures that had been messed up and the overall racial environment of LA, not to mention the 'sterling' rep of LAPD when it came to racial matters, I can understand how someone could have doubts. Plus, there's that whole "we've spent months and months here away from job and family and we just want OUT" mentality - and don't forget the costs of the appeal after appeal that surely would have come out of a guilty verdict.
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>By the by, the dog not barking simply means that the person(s) who did the crime were known to the dog, not necessarily that it was OJ. Or the dog may have been drugged. I would lean more towards that, since my dogs bark at me when I come home.
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>>It isn't very often that we disagree. IMO he was clearly guilty.
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>I guess you missed the part about "While I disagreed with the verdict", huh.....
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>>In addition to the blood evidence, the motive, and the opportunity, two details convinced me. One was the Bruno Magli shoeprints. Only six of them were sold in the U.S. that year and Nicole bought one of them for O.J. The other was the curious incident of the dog in the nighttime. Nicole had an Akita and he did not bark. Akitas are famously protective and he would have barked at an unknown person. No barking was reported.
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>>>The OJ case is one where I really wish we had the 'not proven' verdict that (I believe) Scotland has. While I disagreed with the verdict, it was, unfortunately, the only one the jury could return without there being 17 thousand appeals
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>>>>People say OJ got away with murder. He really didn't. He was a god who everyone admired. Now he is a pariah who can't even get golf partners.
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>>>>>I saw him (for a few minutes anyway) when he came into a restaurant in Boca Raton FL when I was living in south Florida. He came in an sat down - within just a few minutes the owner of the restaurant came over to his table and told him to get the hell out of his restaurant. He didn't make a big scene about it, but the patrons of the restaurant were quite happy that he'd been kicked out an applauded the owner after OJ had been escorted out the door. I also recall seeing on the news that he wasn't allowed on a golf course anymore because every time he showed up people would stand along the fence and yell "murderer" REALLY loud.
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>>>>>>I am still steamed about the OJ case. He literally got away with murder. I was working at home at the time and watched the trial every day, doing my work before and after. There is not a shadow of a doubt in my mind that he did it. He had motive and opportunity. He had no alibi other than that he was working on his golf pitches in the back yard. In the dark. The victims' blood was found in his house and in his car. He was guilty as hell. The "dream team" won that case in jury selection. It was a giant upraised finger from the black community to the LAPD.
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>>>>>>I met him once, briefly. At the time I was living in Redondo Beach and working at the HQ of Ralph's. One of the buyers gave me season tickets to USC games. They were loaded so it was a cool comp. Marcus Allen won the Heisman Trophy that season and they also had a bunch of future NFL players including Anthony Munoz and Jack Del Rio. In one of the games they were slaughtering Washington or Washington State, one or the other, and I left early. Walking through the parking lot, there was OJ. This was way before the murders and he was one of my sports heroes. I said hello and shook his hand. He shook my hand and said hello back. He had a really deep voice. He was with two white women. This may be memory playing a trick on me but I could swear one of them was Nicole.
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>>>>>>>>There is something that really bothers me about this: can the DNA they take be "planted" somewhere? It would be difficult to plant a finger print (as they would have to take an object there), but could a DNA be "smeared" somewhere? Think about the consequences if this were to happen.
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>>>>>>>>I am sure we would all like to believe there is no corruption among the powers that be.
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>>>>>>>Isn't that how they tried to frame OJ ? ;-) (sorry, couldn't resist)
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>>>>>>>Actually I think your point is well taken. It is truly a tough one. As Tamar says, DNA gives a lot more information about you than just your identity. On the other hand, there is little doubt that sure-fire identity matching can prevent many miscarriages of justice and probably aid in removing a great number of predators ( who may not be dumb enough to later try to steal back their memorabilia)
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>>>>>>>Just how complex it is is demonstrated by the court's rather untypical alignment on the issue.
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