>>>>>>>http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2013/06/07/the-xbox-one-might-let-sonys-ps4-win-by-default/
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>>>>>>>Win8 (forced interface). Win8RT (useless). Windows Phone (awful marketing), Vista (speaks for itself)... and the hits keep coming.
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>>>>>>>Microsoft truly is the IBM of the 80's.
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>>>>>>I don't buy it. People said the PS3 was going to bury the 360 (because of the blu-ray player IIRC), but they've been neck and neck in sales. MS will adjust their XBox strategy and they will succeed.
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>>>>>I think they will adjust the strategy, but they'll do it after rollout and any window of opportunity. Just like Win8.
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>>>>Win8 is great on handheld devices. If anything it's ahead of the times. A few minor adjustments and it would be great on a desktop also, but they feel the need to try to force their user's to change.
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>>>I do like it on my phone. Too bad most people have never seen it.
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>>>Forcing users to change - that is the killer. They have been trying that since Vista and refuse to learn the lesson.
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>>>I've been a Microsoft fan for decades, but I'm working hard to jump ship at this point.
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>>For a change, wholeheartly agree with you. I've been working on Win8 for a couple of months now, but really do not understand why they want scare away the enterprise users. I'm still trying to figure out why they've put away the startbutton. without it I'm just totally lost. the search feature is fine as long as you know what you are searching for and remember the right word in the language you are working in. But more often than not, it takes me way more time to find anything than through the start menu. (you guess I've install a 3rd party start button)
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>all you have to do is start typing on the "metro" screen and it will show you a list of matches.

That is great if you know the words you are looking for. Working in two different languages I often cannot remember the right word to search for. I do know where to locate it on the menu. It made me want to pull my hair out more than once.


>>Then when I try to open a PDF, ICON or other graphical file, it brings me into the metro environment where again, I'm totally lost and can't do anything with it. What the F**k were they thinking? I can see that for certain customers it is nice to dumb down the windows interface (hiding complexity), but for the experienced user who earning his money with the windows environment, this is an absolute nightmare.

>Its the same foxpro mindset of refusing to advance with technology. I've always done it this way, why do I need to change. Would you go back to windows 3.1? Get with the times and learn to adapt.

Well, you got it right with adapt, but has nothing to do with advances in GUI technology, its taking three steps backward, esspecially for the advanced users. Reading the stories from the internet, I'm not the only one out there.

BTW, not sure what you classify as the foxpro mindset, but if that means not jumping ship on everything that is new and hot but waiting for real benefits, like real integrated development environments like servoy, Lianja and Windev, you are absolutely right.


>>I do have a dual monitor setup with HD screens. Do they really think that its easier for advanced users to use touchscreens? come on, that is nuts...

>I love touch screen for mobile and tablets. I find it a little cumbersome with desktops, but that is probably just my bias in action, being old school. I will adapt and then it will probably seem as natural as using a mouse.

I do own an ipad and an android smartphone. Touchscreens make sense there. We have been developping touchscreen applications for about a decade. Touchscreens do not make sense in common windows tasks like developping software, CAD/CAM design, or even doing anything in office. I have a keyboard attached to my ipad, but find it annoying. The Ipad is just not the right tool for the job if you need a keyboard for more than the spare words you have to type. In the same line, Windows should not force you to use touchscreens or an interfaces that is not optimized for keyboard and mouse.