>>>>>>But how am I supposed to understand this when he refuses to explain it?
>>>>>He has explained it but from his point of view. You guys aren't talking at the
>>>>>same level, you're not coming at it from the same place at all and hence it's
>>>>>a monologue.
>>>>Not exactly - direct fair questions are not answered thus ending the dialogue.
>>>>In all fairness he has now explained the reason for doing so, but I have to admit
>>>>my skepticism when the reasoning is 'the devil wont let me".
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>>>I can explain it to you, Victor, until I turn blue, but you won't be able to hear it. That's why I don't answer. Until you are looking to know the truth, it will forever elude you. Once you begin to seek the truth, you will find it. Until then you'll be trying to prove points and win arguments because your goals are there, and not on truth discovery, but rather arguing a personal belief.
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>>>I will pray, and teach as best I can, and let God do His work in you, Victor.
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>>Yeah whatever dude. It's not the first time you've pulled the cop out with me when the discussion got difficult. The plain simple truth here is that you're stance towards gays and lesbians is discriminatory and bigoted. You can attempt to justify it with our religion all you want but that doesn't change the facts does it? If you don't want to admit then fine. If you think such behavior is acceptable in this day & age then you got a problem.
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>God does not change, Victor. He is the same yesterday, today, and forever. It is the enemy leading men's thinking toward "acceptance" and "tolerance" of those things God has said are an abomination. But even so, and even though they are those things by His own decree, He still made a way out ... that everyone who will hear His voice can be saved. No exceptions, no matter then sin or apparent "degree of sin."

Right - as long as you repent your sins and conform to bigotry. WTF acceptance and tolerance - as long as god says it's ok? If he does not then unacceptance and intolerance is required? That kind of defeats the whole concept of the words 'tolerance' and 'acceptance' Rick. I understand that your religion seems to think you can have it both ways - but in reality the end result is as a person, a member of society, this makes you a prejudicial, injurious person who is detrimental to the social well being and health for all of humanity. I mean come on - this is how wars get started man.