>>>>Update : Since I'm logging off for the weekend I'd like to leave you with a portrait of a gun friendly city.
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>>>>http://mdjonline.com/view/full_story/21847953/article-Kennesaw-sees-lowest-crime-rate-in-decade
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>>>>If more guns=more gun death then how can a city where 100% of households are required by law to own a firearm possibly come in so low in gun crime?
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>>>ANSWER: http://progressivevalues.blogspot.nl/2007/04/kennesaw-georgia-gun-violence-reduction.html
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>>>You see Jake... there Always is a pattern to these kind of claims, and this is really no exception to it.
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>>So your counter argument to the cherry-picked Kennesaw example is to cite a blog with 10 year old cherry picked data? There's also the author's apparent lack of clarity on the details about Kennesaw and his completely biased opinion as demonstrated by his lack of sourcing and personal stories but that seems like overkill.
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>>So we've had personal attacks, deflection and now rubber-and-glue.
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>>Why not just say that you hate guns and be done with it?
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>The pattern with these examples is that the conclusions are drawn upfront and the statistics will be bend towards the fixed conclusion. The counter blog shows that are significant problems with the relation between the data and the conclusions.
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>In order to really understand the relation between guns and this little town (that by no means is illustrative to american society) you need to dive deeper, but this is not want people want. They just want to hear that guns are good and don't hurt public safety and will use anything to support their arguments.
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>Its very simple Jake. Of all the western countries, the US scores worst in terms of gun related crimes and deaths.

How is that more relevant than crime trends in general and violent crime in particular?

>Why would it be that all countries in the world with stricter gun control are safer than the US (yes that includes switzerland) ?

Even using the unquantifiable metric of "safety", I'm confident saying that this is untrue. Unless you can make a valid argument that Mexico, with it's much stricter gun-control, is safer than the US.

>Is it too hard to see, that gun related guns, deaths and crimes are less frequent to occur with reduced availability of guns?

No one is arguing that.

>Its insulting to hear time and time again people making excuses "Guns don't kill people", and "Its not the gun".

Guns

Mexico's homicide rate is over double the US despite the nearly 6x higher gun-ownership rate in the US.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/07/31/mexico-murder-rate/2606229/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country

It's not an excuse it's a fact. Pools don't kill people, people kill people. ;)