>>>>Even using the unquantifiable metric of "safety", I'm confident saying that this is untrue. Unless you can make a valid argument that Mexico, with it's much stricter gun-control, is safer than the US.
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>>>>Mexico's homicide rate is over double the US despite the nearly 6x higher gun-ownership rate in the US.
>>>>http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/07/31/mexico-murder-rate/2606229/
>>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country
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>>>>It's not an excuse it's a fact. Pools don't kill people, people kill people. ;)
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>>>I do not think Mexico is a good example for you point of view, from where do you think the Mexican criminals get their guns? (when they are not handed to them by the ATF, that is)
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>>Another of the lies told by this administration.
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>>http://www.stratfor.com/weekly/20110209-mexicos-gun-supply-and-90-percent-myth
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>>According to the GAO report, some 30,000 firearms were seized from criminals by Mexican authorities in 2008. Of these 30,000 firearms, information pertaining to 7,200 of them (24 percent) was submitted to the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) for tracing. Of these 7,200 guns, only about 4,000 could be traced by the ATF, and of these 4,000, some 3,480 (87 percent) were shown to have come from the United States.
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>>This means that the 87 percent figure relates to the number of weapons submitted by the Mexican government to the ATF that could be successfully traced and not from the total number of weapons seized by Mexican authorities or even from the total number of weapons submitted to the ATF for tracing. In fact, the 3,480 guns positively traced to the United States equals less than 12 percent of the total arms seized in Mexico in 2008 and less than 48 percent of all those submitted by the Mexican government to the ATF for tracing. This means that almost 90 percent of the guns seized in Mexico in 2008 were not traced back to the United States.
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>Well that's not really looking at the statistics properly though is it? Sure only 10% of all the guns seized were traced back to the USA...but they did not test 30,000 guns - they tried to test 7,200 guns. Then only 4,000 of those were actually traceable, and of those 3,480 came from the USA. So looking at the math here it would be logical to infer that based on the test sample it's really more like 90% of the guns ARE coming from the USA. Of course you can't say for sure since they did not test all 30,000 guns - but duh 3480 is 87% of 4,000 as x is 87% of 30,000. Anyone who thinks Mexico is getting most of their guns from somewhere other than the USA has their head in the sand - some things are just soooo obvious that it baffles me people can't see it. What you think is happening? The Mexican drug cartels ship drugs to the usa, then ship back money (but not any weapons) so they can go buy the guns from Russia or China or something? Like how lame can one get?

You do realize that getting full automatic weapons from the US is next to impossible. The cartels would have no problem getting full auto AK47 from Cuba, China or Nicaragua for less money so why waste money on US weapons. Think about it.

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