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(Continuation) Re: John Koziol's brother
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16/08/2013 00:04:35
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Religion
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>>>The thing I find most disturbing is the idea that somehow "God" - an anthropomorphic construction
>>>in man's image - has "spoken" and created a users manual in a collection of disparate documents
>>>assembled, deconstructed, mistranslated and rewritten over 2500 years by committee and that
>>>ultimately this is the authority for questions of human existence, when the only authority for its
>>>primacy or integrity is itself.
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>>The part that you're missing, Charles, is the acceptance or ability to accept that God is not like things we have or know here upon this Earth. He is Spirit. He is eternal. And He has purposes in the things He does which go along those lines (spiritual, eternal). And, being completely sovereign, He does not have limitations that are imposed by men or men's evil intents or deeds. What He wants to have happen will happen, no act of man or men withstanding.
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>>With regards to the Bible, there is one author. It is God, His Holy Spirit guiding men to write things which contain parts that are incomprehensible outside of being born again. God did this for His own purposes. "Ever hearing, yet never understanding. Ever seeing, but never perceiving," and so on.
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>>When a person seeks to know the truth, desiring honestly and truthfully to know the truth, they find it. It is God being sought in that case because God is truth -- literal truth.
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>>We come to faith by hearing the word of God and by seeking the truth. When you're willing to do that, God will have already been moving everything in your life toward that day because He sees outside of time. Until that day, no person can ever come to know faith, or God.
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>Not missing it at all. Questioning the whole tautological premise. The Bible is the infallible word of God because the Bible says it is the word of God. God tells us the the Bible is his truth because it says so in the Bible. Everything else in your worldview is based on this and without accepting that the Bible is the center of the theological universe it all completely falls apart.
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>All you are doing is using the Bible to explain "God's purpose" and the direction of history as it is laid out in the Bible and there is not a single reason outside the Bible to believe in its truth. It is the kind of logic that would be laughable if its ultimate effects were not so pernicious.
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>Dianetics is the key to ultimate reality if you can get past the idea that Ron Hubbard was a mad charlatan and anyone who doesn't see that is a fool. Ron Hubbard said Scientology is Truth and Scientology thinks Ron Hubbard was Source.
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>It is logical for 2 people who accept the premise that The Bible holds the word of an anthropomorphic God to use the Bible to debate the details. But in my experience one has to be pretty spiritually and intellectually lazy and needy to buy it.
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>Two astrologers can argue about an astrological chart. Anyone who thinks astrology is nonsense is not going to be persuaded by either argument but just be bemused that either can so fully waste a human mind.
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>The the Bible is an ethno-centric collection of documents with varying sources and authors and degrees of textual integrity from origin that represent what various committees have chosen to keep of the folk myths and ancestor stories of a certain segment of human history. It has great historical interest, both in its cultural impact whatever light it sheds on historical events, but in all these characteristics it is not unique.
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>There is no compelling exogenous argument to accept the premise that it has any claim to truth other than its own claims to such.

I salute you for taking the time to reply but think you may be wasting your time. I don't bother responding to his messages any more. He just keeps repeating the same thing over and over.
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