>>>>The part that you're missing, Charles, is the acceptance or ability to accept that
>>>>God is not like things we have or know here upon this Earth....
>>>Not missing it at all. Questioning the whole tautological premise.....
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>>Yes, this is exactly how you are missing it. You have pre-conceived ideas that must be proven (one way or the other) before you will believe. You are not seeking the truth. You are seeking a concluding relationship to your pre-conceived ideas (be they proven correct or incorrect).
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>>Come to God asking Him for guidance in your journey, believing He will guide you, and you will receive it. If you can understand that, then you're half way Home.
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>I don't think that journey would of lead me to a tropical island and to live with these two beautiful women all these years (and two kids)...I'm not saying I'm rooting for the other side...I'm just sayin.....what you see as "pre-conceived" might be you'r desired destiny ...but it sure as hell don't have to anyone else's. Hey man at the end of the day all I can do is catch a few waves and stick my toes in the sand. try my best to keep my head out of the sand...and wake up to a happy family. I don't see how anyone would want to shoebox .themselves to such fundamentalist hoookim.

You have two women? I must say I am impressed.

Not picking on you, Victor, but it is possible to move this discussion to a different thread? It seems disrespectful to have it in a thread about John Koziol's brother dying.

BTW, I sent John an email offering to help out in any way I could. His reply was "Thanks, Mike, but it's all good." We have spoken on the phone a fair number of times, just as you and I have spoken on the phone a fair number of times, but I would not describe John and I as close friends. I'm sure he has many of those as well as family.