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22/08/2013 09:53:32
 
 
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22/08/2013 04:01:50
Dragan Nedeljkovich (En ligne)
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Zrenjanin, Serbia
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>>>>http://slashdot.org/topic/bi/groklaw-shutting-down-is-a-huge-deal/
>>>>http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20130818120421175
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>>>This is specially offensive to the rest of the world.
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>>As I read it, they just gave up.
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>As I read it, giving up and making some public statement about it was only as much as they could do without violating any secret court orders.
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>>Is the rest of the world offended by the people who gave up, or by the people who got them to give up?
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>By the police state laws that affect countries not involved at all.
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>>And.. who is the rest of the world? China? Russia? India?
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>And another hundred countries, who get to suffer from this extension of american jurisdiction.
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>>Those 3 countries account for a whole lot of land mass and billions of people.
>>Are they offended?
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>>Frankly, I'm not impressed by people who start a movement and then take their marbles home because the other guy isn't playing fair.
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>Would you be impressed if they called for a revolution instead?

>>to suffer from this extension of american jurisdiction.

Dragan, I'm generally opposed to the extension of American power, but let's get real for a minute.
During WWII all governments unapologetically opened and/or censored mail.
When I was a GI in a combat zone, I was told that my mail was subject to being opened and/or censored.
They were doing that to restrict information that might help an enemy.
Anyone is his right mind can see why that was necessary.

As we see every day, there are people blowing other people up.
These people have said that they want to blow me and my family up.

Would you rather that some whack jobs like Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld start invading other countries again?
Take a look at the people gaining increasing control in American politics and you'll see that that's likely to happen unless we stop these people.

The internet and the telephone are both American products. The development of the internet was largely funded by US taxpayers. No one seems to complain about that extension of American power.
No one HAS to use either of them. In light of all the disclosures, anyone who puts sensitive information out there deserves whatever happens.
If the US government can use them to stop attacks then I'm all for it.

Of course the tool can be abused.
I can imagine that a few of those WWII censors did some devious things with the information they got.
But you use the tools you have to stop people who are trying to kill you.

Regarding starting a revolution - some people already have. They're called Al Qaeda.
Anyone who does not go overboard- deserves to.
Malcolm Forbes, Sr.
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