>It's very possible. But that doesn't explain the crappy UI in *every* Java application I've used

Tell us what makes your UIs compelling.

Maybe the explanation is the same for every language, a poorly designed UI is poorly designed.

Cant make a language specific case out of that ti support your FUD though.

Must be why you choose to deny the obvious.


>>Craig, I've done very little work with Java, but I do believe there are good Java UI frameworks and components out there. Back in 2004 JVP and I worked for a place that did some pretty slick work in Java with different frameworks. Some are surely better than others, but I'd be surprised if there weren't some good solution paths out there.