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>Maybe you're right. The point I was trying to make was that on 9/11 we were not fighting an identifiable army and there was no one they could surrender to. New troops pring up every day It is the definition of a frustrating insurgency.

Wow, I never expected to see you give in when somebody responded to a post contrary to what you think. If this is the beginning of a nicer, gentler Mike Beane, Congratulations. This is not meant as a sarcastic slam. I'm truly gratified to see you respond that maybe you were wrong.