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06/12/2013 09:47:54
John Ryan
Captain-Cooker Appreciation Society
Taumata Whakatangi ..., Nouvelle Zélande
 
 
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Politics
Catégorie:
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Titre:
Re: Ouch
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Thread ID:
01588319
Message ID:
01589444
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>>John, are you intentionally going down this road, to see if you can prompt someone (like me) to make a strong statement that can allow someone else (and I think we both know who it might be) to make some outlandish Grover-style claim?

AFAIK you're Grover so the reference to somebody else is lost on me. The only strong statement here is that the President lied. I didn't provoke that, I'm responding to it because IMHO it's unreasonable. If evidence appears, of course I'll change my mind. Even then I'll insist that it was unreasonable on 6 December 2013 when the evidence was not in.

>>What is rather obvious here is that Obama told the lie, KNOWING he could count on certain actions by insurers (some by choice and some because their hand had been forced)....and knowing he could count on others vilifying the insurance companies.

What is rather obvious is that people ignore the Grandfather period. So I ask again: what is the purpose of the Grandfather period.
"... They ne'er cared for us
yet: suffer us to famish, and their store-houses
crammed with grain; make edicts for usury, to
support usurers; repeal daily any wholesome act
established against the rich, and provide more
piercing statutes daily, to chain up and restrain
the poor. If the wars eat us not up, they will; and
there's all the love they bear us.
"
-- Shakespeare: Coriolanus, Act 1, scene 1
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