>>>In another thread John Ryan referred several times to the American Dream.
>>>So, what is (was) the American Dream, and has it disappeared?
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>>I'd say;
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>>a) with hard work, you can improve your station in life;
>>b) your kids will do better than you.
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>>I think it still happens for some people. My mom and her 4 siblings were orphaned immigrants. Two of them went to college (with the help of the others); all 10 of their offspring are college graduates, with a few graduate degrees thrown in.
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>>But I also think it's harder to have that kind of success today than it was for previous generations.
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>>Tamar
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>Does to you "success" mean "money and material things"? Because if you take away 'money' and 'material things' one can achieve much more today than in previous generations.

Tamar might point out that money and material things aren't quite as important as a piece of paper that says your smart.