>>>>In another thread John Ryan referred several times to the American Dream.
>>>>So, what is (was) the American Dream, and has it disappeared?
>>>
>>>I'd say;
>>>
>>>a) with hard work, you can improve your station in life;
>>>b) your kids will do better than you.
>>>
>>>I think it still happens for some people. My mom and her 4 siblings were orphaned immigrants. Two of them went to college (with the help of the others); all 10 of their offspring are college graduates, with a few graduate degrees thrown in.
>>>
>>>But I also think it's harder to have that kind of success today than it was for previous generations.
>>>
>>>Tamar
>>
>>Does to you "success" mean "money and material things"? Because if you take away 'money' and 'material things' one can achieve much more today than in previous generations.
>
>Tamar might point out that money and material things aren't quite as important as a piece of paper that says your smart.

Or even a grammar certificate, for that matter.