>>No, the areas where you criticize are those areas that you WANT something from, but you don't
>>want to put in the time or money required. You've stated it yourself, you're not willing to put in the
>>time and effort to start a Fox-Free user group in your area (those are your words)
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>Those were not my words. I said I have considered doing one for Visual FreePro with a FoxPro subset, and that I am not doing that presently because I am instead devoting my free time to completing Visual FreePro.
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>>but can't understand why someone who DOES put forth the time and effort that you don't want to do
>>somehow doesn't appreciate all your good ideas that will take MORE time and MORE effort.
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>It is not my teaching, Dorris. We are to trust in the Lord to provide for us, and with all that we are we reach out to others. If we have knowledge, we use and share our knowledge. If we have skills, we use and share our skills. If we have some special talent, we use and share our special talent. We do not seek things beyond need, and if we have two of something we are to give to the one who has none.
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>>You're so very disappointed that no one here will take you to raise (professionally speaking)
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>I do not understand this statement.
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>>and so cover your 'Wah-wah' in religious overtones to try and guilt people into giving you
>>something for free.
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>That is not correct. I have a full-time job that I use to pay for the things I desire. And with the remainder of my free time I seek in great measures to do things for others. I am not seeking free things so as to achieve personal gain, even though I would achieve gain from those offerings along with everyone else, but instead I am trying to teach the ways that we are supposed to be. I am doing this in my personal life, and I am teaching it as I live.
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>>Quit telling everyone that their time and effort is worth nothing to you. They've figured that
>> out already.
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>I do not believe that people's time and effort is worth nothing, to me, or anyone else. My position is that people's time and effort is valuable, exceedingly valuable, and it should not be given away for money, but rather for something that lasts eternally. Jesus teaches that if we receive something here on Earth for our efforts, we have received our reward, but that if we do not receive for it here on Earth, then we have a treasure building up for us in Heaven.

That's what your religion teaches. Mine teaches that my first responsibility is to care for myself, then for my family, then for my community, and then for the broader world. I am expected to do something to earn a living and I am expected to share what I earn with those who have less. I do all that. I am absolutely not expected to give all my time and effort away for some nebulous eternal rewards.

There's an important Jewish work called "Ethics of the Fathers." One of the best know items in it translates to:

If I am not for myself, who will be for me?
If I am only for myself, what am I?
If not now, then when?

Nothing in there about everything being for the greater glory, blah, blah, blah.


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>Jesus teaches us how to live, and I have come to believe, understand, implement, and move in His teachings. I also am commanded by Him to go out into the world and make disciples, teaching others these things which He has taught me. It is up to others to follow or not. My job is completed at the teaching part, and then any follow-through as it arises. It is not my responsibility to make people believe, but only to live and speak that which He taught us to do.

I have no interest in being a disciple of Jesus and never will. I consider proselytizing one of the rudest things someone can do.

Tamar