>Hank,
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>I could not swing my clients, as last year release dates slipped, so I stopped testing and contributing, feeling more than partly sad because I liked the tool and the atmosphere over there. Had to break totally for time reasons now partially lifted... Could you take the time to provide a status update of Lianja in more detail ?
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>- How far along the beta/stable are mobile clients ?
It's all on the roadmap. The order of things from the current point is likely to be a little different, but pretty much in the order that's there.
>- Are all languages and tables supported fully on mobile, including cursor, xBase and SQL support ?

Mobile has cursor support.
Lianja tables are automatically pulled into cursors on the client.
Virtual Tables ("views" against remote sql servers) will be available in 1.3 or 1.2
The browser mobile client (standalone or phonegap wrapped) uses JS, as that's what is in browsers. On the CloudServer, at present LVFP and JS are supported; PHP and Python are on the roadmap. Native apps have been announced as running VFP, but I would not be surprised to see JS there also.

>- Can local data be encrypted and/or hidden from device thieves or black hat apps?

Local data isn't stored on the device at this point (that's in the roadmap also, for the native mobile apps; I've read that it may show up in browser mobile/phonegap apps, but it's not on the roadmap.

>- Did Barry spring other significant surprize(s) benefit, and if yes, which in the time I was away ?

There's been a lot of new stuff, all the time: he can't help himself.

>- In you eyes worst things on the bug list currently ?

There's nothing that is holding me back from deploying apps; maybe others have things they need, but I wouldn't know.

>- Things on the road map most missed from your POV ?

I have some ER's, which don't end up on the roadmap, that I would like to see implemented. But everyone has their own needs. I see that Uhe needs to edit a 20,000+ line classlib. Everyone works in their own way, and therefore has their own needs.

>- And what are in your eyes the weakest points of Lianja, if anybody asks for full disclosure/due diligence if I enter the topic again ?

The only real weak point is that it isn't V2.x -- the trajectory puts this within this calendar year.

All in all, I'm probably not the best person to ask, as I'm pretty much in the mode of using it, and learning things as I go. Lianja still surprises me with what's built-in -- alt though I've learned to google the question with Lianja tacked onto the query, so I find what's already there.

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>thx in advance
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>thomas
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>>Hi Metin,
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>>what you are describing is Lianja. :) Desktop version runs native on Mac/Win/Linux. Desktop Browser and mobile run from the Cloudserver.
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>>Hank
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>>>>Can you define your needs? Web? Desktop? Tablet? Phone?
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>>>I'm a desktop developer. But I think subscription model would be nice with web for future or sell applications at Windows store would be good.
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>>>So in first desktop. Maybe future web and/or tablet. Python seem work at Mac OS without any change, I see more MacBook users. It would be good my applications Mac X version. I have a retail sales application and I don't see any commercial applications like this at OS X...
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>>>Currenty desktop.
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>>>In future web or store (Windows and if possible Apple). I don't ask customers for invoices at future. They pay, they use. Subscription with Web and Windows/Apple store models good for this. But I'm not sure what's the best... Maybe at this time subscription with RDP would be best simple approach. A canadian developer from UT (sory, I can't remember his name) adviced me rent application with RDP.