>>I was going to let this go, but I can't:
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>>http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2014/05/_yesallwomen_in_the_wake_of_elliot_rodger_why_it_s_so_hard_for_men_to_recognize.html
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>I'm going to reply to this later, but for now, the picture at the top of the link shows a man with his arm around a woman's shoulder.
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>Yes, a no-no, shouldn't be done.
>I've had men do the same thing to me.
>I worked in the office of United Health Group for about six months and had three women come up and hug me.
>I've never told a sex joke at a client site but I've had many women (and men) tell me sex jokes.
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>Obviously, it's not the end of the world when it happens, but my point is that a number of the #YesAllWomen posts deal in equally superficial issues.

The guy with his arm around her isn't superficial at all, especially if it's her supervisor. She doesn't know whether she can tell him to knock it off without it having an effect on her job. She doesn't know whether he's going to find her somewhere more isolated and do more than put an arm around her. The guy could just be a toucher, who does that to everyone or he could be a predator. She has no way of knowing.

>Did Elliot Rodger show strong signs of misogyny? Sure looks that way. But so do lots of men. There's a clear distinction here - he had a violent break.

Yes, the hard question is whether the misogyny led to the break, or whether anything could have set him off.

>I put some of this on the police. They had been told weeks ago that he made videos on Youtube with threats of violence - the cops didn't even bother watching them (by their own admission). And here is where I part company with the extreme right - I DO believe in a gun registration database with cross validations. And when we have a government that isn't run by a bunch of imbeciles who might actually run such a program correctly, it might make things better.
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We're agreed on gun registration.

>In recent times, cops are hesitant to get involved in rape claims (and for that matter, university administrators have been slow to act on them as well).
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This is one of those great falsehoods around. There's a meme that lots of men's lives are being ruined by false rape claims. In fact, unreported rapes are a much, much greater problem. False rape accusations are rare.

>The article claims that men are surprised about the #YesAllWomen and that we can't recognize it. I can't speak for all men, but I'm not surprised by any of the responses.

Good. That's one.

Tamar