>>A wise man once said, "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime." I'd rather teach you to fish than give you a fish.

I think he probably knows about the Help file. FWIW, sometimes a friend may say to another "what's the time?" which isn't intended as an insult or a sign of being too lazy to look at your watch, it's a reflection of relaxed and mutually respectful company where somebody probably can flick off the answer without effort. Sort of like the UT! My reaction when I saw the question was "what is M doing using VFP?" and maybe I'll ask in due course. Apart from that, you guys both carried/carry a torch in a product that meant a lot to many here. Peace.