>>yep liberalism and unions at work..
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>John
>Unions don't run the school systems, school boards do.
>School boards sign off on union contracts, so any provision has been agreed to by the school board.
>The state department of ed can refuse to approve any contract that it wants the to.
>So it's not just the union.
>Management still has the right to discipline teachers, if it exercises it.
>My son had a really bad 5th grade teacher. She had tenure. I went and spoke to the principal and he asked me if I'd help him get things right. I told him I would. I documented the issues. He put them together with some others and he got her fired.

Yep, what tenure does is guarantee due process.

We documented issues with two different teachers when our kids were in school. Both retired sooner than expected. What we learned along the way is that most parents were unwilling to go on record documenting the issues.

For that matter, my husband was involved in getting a terrible teacher out of his HS.

Tamar