David,

>An object of takes on the data session that is current at the time of creation. So the object grabs a handle on "dataenvironment" which does not disappear until the last thing hanging on to it is released.
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Like to clarify with you : if the DE is not used (instead, open files in Load), is the handle grabbed too?



>BTW this makes object procedures fairly tricky, because they only see the one dataenvironment. Personally I like to keep procedures that generically handle data files in a procedure library (the old fashioned way), where they see the current data session, rather than in a object, such as the application object.
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>>All objects have to be released, not just the form closed. Release oRef, and the DS should close. Be careful when using public variables, this behavior can occur.

Actually, it was a toolbar that needed to stay on after the form is closed, and used in other forms too. The toolbar does not access files (not navigation). I had to work around this by 1st instantiating trhe TB prior to entry.

So, I suppose this is a standard thing.

THanks, Ed, David.