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09/08/2014 16:08:22
Walter Meester
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09/08/2014 15:29:00
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Family
Catégorie:
Enfants
Divers
Thread ID:
01604148
Message ID:
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>>>>>>>>>Doesn't it seem a shame to destroy family farms with a tax that raises very little money?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I already answered that it should be set up so that family farms are below the exemption. How many family farms do you think land above the current exemption of $5M+?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If we think it is wrong to take a family farm away from the family when the farm is worth $2m, or $3m or up to $5m
>>>>>>>then why are we forcing more successful families to suffer the loss of the their farm?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>To raise tax money that is a rounding error in the federal budget?
>>>>>>>It is simply not a significant source of revenue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>So what is the point? Punish the rich?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>At some point, it's not just a "family farm." If it's worth $100M and has, say, 100 paid employees, is it still a "family farm"? What, exactly, is a "family farm"? Is it one in which only family members work there? One with a limited number of outside employees?
>>>>>
>>>>>You have nailed the crux of the issue.
>>>>>Somebody else gets to decide how much is too much.
>>>>>
>>>>>You seem comfortable with $5m being "too much"
>>>>>
>>>>>There are many hard working poor people in the world who would evaluate your families material success and
>>>>>they would be very happy to vote themselves a piece of it.
>>>>>
>>>>>A big piece of it.
>>>>>
>>>>>You would probably disagree.
>>>>
>>>>No, I wouldn't. You haven't heard me complaining about paying taxes. Beyond that, we give generously of our money and our time to charity. I know that I've been far more fortunate than many and I live my life accordingly.
>>>
>>>I am sure you are generous and kind, that was not the issue.
>>>
>>>I was perhaps too subtle, or too un-subtle.
>>>
>>>Being generous with your own property, money, and time to charities and noble causes is a good thing.
>>>
>>>Demanding that those on the economic rungs above ours give much higher percentages of their wealth - I can't see how that is a good thing.
>>>
>>>What gives us the moral right to demand such a thing?
>>
>>The fact that those who are making enormous fortunes are doing so in part because we, the taxpayers, have given them the opportunity by building infrastructure and provided educated workers and so forth.
>
>By that logic, the folks in the economic tier under yourself have the right to demand you surrender your family's wealth.

Aren't we doing already that by paying taxes which pay for their benefits? The problem is that the (super) rich can get away with paying almost no taxes through constructions that are not viable for the masses.

I have no problem with paying taxes to sustain welfare. I do have a problem with the ever increasing gap between the rich and poor which rapidly turns the middleclass into obscurity. A good friend doing very well, once said to me. No job can justify being paid more than 25x joe average on the workfloor. That is pure greed. Note that this is about wages, not earnings.

>Hmm.. that rung includes me.
>Fork it over!
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