>>>>Off topic, but I came across some videos that I am interested in your perspective on:
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>>>>http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2014/04/immigrants_bullied_into_leavin.php
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>>>I'm not familiar with this issue, but there certainly are more area's where immigrants will not be welcomed with open arms. Also the reverse is also true, in some areas natives will be terrorised to leave their homes (especially by Moroccan youth). Unfortunately this happens despite the efforts the government puts into this to abolish it. The problems always are multifactorial like a combination of a too high concentration of immigrants, unemployment and other social factors.
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>>>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2oDILZdZvA
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>>>I can't make any sense of that one. It sounds like a snippet from an anti racism clip where the end (conclusion) is stripped off.
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>>>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcuFWP8LuNg
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>>>That is one that is a bit more complicated and has to do with the EU. Since the EU, we do not have any customs anymore at our borders, so you can drive from The Netherlands, through Belgium, LuxemBurg, France, Spain to Portugal without being checked once. Needless to say is that with the open borders, also lots of illegal stuff comes in... amongst which ... illegal immigrants. The Dutch wanted to have some limited form of border checks in order to attempt to prevent illegal goods and immigrants getting in. In this matter there is a complaint that those 'customs' were discriminating because western people weren't checked as often as people from eastern Europe and coloured people. Which IMO, is logical because you'd expect most illegal stuff from just this group. As far as I know those checks do not exist anymore because they were against European law.
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>>>>Americans are often chastised by Europeans for *some* views on the immigration problem here. Whether or not anyone feels that America should have free and open borders, I think a large portion of this country has no idea the immensity of the influx of foreigners right now. As to Netherlands, I loved my time there and found that the views and behavior varied greatly in different areas - just as it does here in the U.S. For both countries, I think the more moderate (and probably more common) views are mostly ignored by the media and hence other countries mostly focus on the media attention the extreme views receive.
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>>>Immigration is a difficult topic and if you'd ask around here in The Netherlands almost everyone would agree that we've let in people that should not be in here at all. This mainly happened in the 60-70-80's of last century and now we are paying the price for some of those groups. Its now more difficult to get in and enjoy the welfare system than it was in last century. There is a certain amount of troubles in some of those groups of immigrants. E.g.:
>>>- Moroccans: Street robbery, "street terrorism"
>>>- Polish, drunk, burglary
>>>- Nigerians. Scams, phishing
>>>- Romanians, pickpocketing, debit card skimming
>>>etc.
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>>>I do not think you can totally compare immigration in the US with here in Europe as its much more diverse here than in the US. Because of the colonial history of many European countries there are way more ethnic groups involved here. They often want to let family come over who more often than not do not have the qualifications to have a decent chance of getting work.
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>>>A site note. Next month I need to visit the US to do an installation and training and I always have to carefully think what I'm going to say when I get interviewed at customs. If you mention the "Work" word all alarm bells go off and will be taken aside at immigration for an in depth interview. Something that you'd not have to worry for in Europe. Those long lines at customs hardly exist here. Example, when I arrive back from the US at Schiphol (one of the largest airports in Europe), it usually take me less than 5 minutes to get through customs. Getting into the US, I'll account for at least 1 hour.
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>>Thanks for your insight Walter. Very interesting. I think I might disagree on one view: immigration is more diverse in Europe. I think that when it comes to legal immigration that is not true - we have immigration from all countries and is similar to that of Europe. When it comes to illegal immigration, then I think you are correct. Our illegal immigration is from mostly just a few countries -- or at least the groups that are creating social and economic issues here are. But then again, only real statistics can define that.
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>>(Edited to remove typos) :)
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>We've got a lot of immigration from Islamic African countries. Often because of family reunion involving people that do not have much chance to find work. To my best knowledge the US does not get a lot of those.

75 different countries:
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/immigration/item/18857-immigrants-from-over-75-countries-illegally-crossing-us-border

and then there is the 37,000+ children since October alone:
http://www.catholic.org/news/politics/story.php?id=56557

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