>>>>>>>You clearly do not understand where I am coming from and your "honest truth" is just your subjective view. You defend yourself and those that mock him because his actions in this forum are too much for you and some others. This fails to acknowledge that the very behaviour exhibited is one of the effects of being a drug addict in the first place. Drug addicts need to be helped or, if you cant help, left alone. But scorn, insults, and ridicule contribute nothing of a positive nature especially when coming from those not trained in drug addiction treatment.
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>>>>>>Jos, sorry, but I don't agree.
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>>>>>>I said the "honest truth" is that Mike elevated his addiction by saying it brought him certain qualities ("being drunk makes me more creative"). I challenge anyone on this forum to defend that statement, and I challenge anyone to say it doesn't give credence to the notion that he really doesn't want to change. Truth hurts sometimes.
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>>>>>His statements are easily defend-able or rather, understandable, if only you could understand the actual point I am making. He is a drug addict. What he says when he is drugged-up has no import and certainly do not warrant ridicule, mockery, and scorn from amateur psycho-therapists. If you can help, help him. If not, leave him. If he gets out of hand that is a matter for the UT management. Do you mock addicts who you see in the streets, face to face, because of the things they say while drugged?
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>>>>Describing interactions with prostitutes is not out of hand?
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>>>Take it up with UT management. And your question deflects from the point being made.
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>>Maybe, maybe not. The ridicule didn't set in until that line was crossed.
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>That line was crossed? It is the world's oldest profession. You may not like it, and I do not necessarily like it either, but when you are on your own sometimes .... well, I will not fill in the blanks. My marriage ended. Then a three year relationship ended. (I mention only in passing that she was the one who found me on Facebook after over 30 years apart). Like all of us, I am not getting any younger. Trust me, I would like to be in your shoes with a relatively new marriage and a young son. Just wait a few years before passing judgment.

Discussing illegal activities (especially ADMITTING to them) is indeed a line that ends in banning in almost any online forum that doesn't start with "alt.porn"

The fog thickens. Get thee some help and quit pretending like it will happen "in a few days or weeks as soon as a bed opens up" Your crazy ass, drunken ramblings have taken this forum to the level of those mentioned above.