>Like Mike, I didn't see this sooner
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>I had the displeasure of having lunch with Joe Celko many years ago. It was just me and him. My take away... what an arrogant, horse's a$$.
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>>Who accepts Celko's opinion as gospel? Even Codd and Date are not on the same page in this matter. Personally I do not see any problem with a generated meaningful key *as* long as you accept it to be absolutely static.

His behavior on forums for years was horrible. Particularly on the old SQL newsgroups.