>>But I am guilty of that too - our inhouse QMS software started off using an application framework I got as part of MEI training and....it is still that way.
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>Is that the framework where the guts of every routine is wrapped in a DO WHILE .T. loop? I've inherited some code like that and I know the developer had MEI training.

Perhaps the one you have seen could have been based on MEI training on an early version of Fox, but I went after VFP 6 came out (to learn OOP - we had used FP prior to that) and the framework examples actually had a nice application object and toolbar/menu interface that I simply added on to....and on to...and on to...(g)