>Read this http://fox.wikis.com/wc.dll?Wiki~MVPProgramOct99Turmoil~Wiki
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>As you do, keep in mind that EVERY MVP I talked to said, "We don't care. We'll still help the community"
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>I don't speak at events, write books, write my column, or do forum support because of what Microsoft may or may not award. I do it because I care about the community.
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>If it was marketing, the MVP program would be run by the Microsoft marketing department. It is not. It's run by customer support.

You have every right to keep your point. So do I. I respect yours, but what I take or not is up to me. We made it clear, know where we stand, and will respect this further on.

Customer support?
If it is for free it is marketing. At best. Mostly it's data gathering and product testing for free. Marketing is honest compared to this.

Then you might have a fair prise for valuable information. Thats rare.

And for some companies it's a cash cow that charges you without value.

I need to end this right now- it's to tricky in english - and I have urgent support business.

I see no good way to end this thread the way I like - but let me say that you have my deep respect and it is not the target to have an argument or put some blame on you.

Lutz


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>>TANSTAAFL
>>Dependent as long as one want to keep the state. MVP is by definition a (MostValuable, badly Paid) voice of MS.
>>snip
>>.., Microsoft Most Valuable Professional (MVP) award is given to "exceptional, independent community leaders who share their passion, technical expertise, and real-world knowledge of Microsoft products with others."
>>snap
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>>This is marketing, nothing else. MS is a business, it is just on Dollars. They give nothing for free. You are Most Valuable because you do the marketing better then the MS people can do - and for peanuts. To be MVP itself names one a believer.
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>>My POV. You can not convince me. But, again, this is only in your advertisement of MS products.
>>I do not like to convince you. You make - beeing a MVP - your POV clear to me, so I think it's only fair to let you know mine. :)
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>>I like to stop it here. It would go down to basic believes.
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>>Let's go to business, and hope Michel can solve the problem.
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>>Lutz
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>>>You also misunderstand what an MVP is. We are independent voices. We are vocal in pointing out where Microsoft goes wrong. But also praising what it does right. I have complained about plenty that Microsoft does wrong.
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>>>>Beg your pardon. I value your voice on every technical aspect, but not if it comes to the priority of MS products. You are MS MVP.
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>>>>For the FF IE stat: Apologies. My state was wrong as you pointed out. Normaly search is within the last year, so I have not checked the year just targeted the table,
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>>>>For the NSA we disagree. I think they act like a big backup - I only need to figure out how to restore. I even would pay them the service. ;)
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>>>>At least we agree on Chrome. :) The only problem on google is where to find a good competitor that runs on a payed base and does not spy on you.
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>>>>Lutz