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>>>>Unfortunately, in some parts of the tech community, it's not just a few bad apples, but very bad culture. IME, the VFP community is pretty amazing in the treatment of women as equal partners. I'm sure that's partly because there have been visible female leaders in the community pretty much from day 1. When I read about some of what women in other tech communities go through on a regular basis, I'm very grateful that I landed in this community.
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>>>When you say "some women in other tech communities go through on a regular basis", what do you mean? There have been random incidents (and they are very bad when they happen) but I don't know if I've ever heard anyone characterize it as a regular basis.
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>>That's because the public (however you want to define it) only hears about the most egregious instances or the instances where someone is willing to put up with the BS after they've reported it. Look at what happens to any woman who dares to voice an opinion (or knowledge) on almost any subject. Here come the trolls with their "I hope you get raped to death" (and that's not really the worst) or "Nice, now go make me a sammich" comments. Somewhere in there, some nimrod will sometimes get the woman's personal information and post it. Now she's getting texts and calls with much of the same commentary. That's one end of the spectrum. Notice I don't call it an extreme.
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>>On the other end of the spectrum women get "Are you sure it was meant that way?" "Are you sure you're not over-reacting?" "Um, no, when someone tells me they'd love to (insert personal contact type here) me raw, it's kinda hard to take it any other way."
>>"Well, he'd been drinking and he's not normally like that" "Yeah, he is. He's just louder when he's drunk"
>>Or, the report is just ignored and when the powers that be are asked about it, they mumble something about "The report wasn't complete so it was hard to follow up on" (Really, she gave you date/time, what was said/touched, who else was in the area - what else do you need?)
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>>Seriously Kevin, listen to how some of your peers talk to or about the women around them.
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>And listen to the women talk about men... lol.. .it'll make you cringe also..

John, comments like this are part of the problem. Why did you feel the need to take what I said and make it a throw-away joke?