>>Was the VFP community truly better at treatment of women? I think that's probably subjective and "eye of the beholder" area. I'm not disputing anything you say, I just think the methods of evaluating are different.

It's not treatment of women as a conscious effort, it's more of a meme that this Fox stuff was way cool and "people" are good at it. Just people. There's no need for gender bias over a set of disks and manuals in a big white box that gets loaded onto a computer and people are doing amazing things. The bias came later when mostly males made things unnecessarily complicated as a testament to their white coat status to achieve something that's often little different from an app written in FP2.x from the user's pov.

>>Obviously I don't interact outside the Microsoft realm. I don't know if it's a coincidence but the incidents I know about are non-Microsoft or platform-independent.

Those incidents are just the tip of the iceberg. Dorris is talking about an entrenched attitude in which an assertive male is showing leadership qualities but an assertive female is being a bitch. Not easy to get ahead when you're surrounded by that. Asocial geeks discussing misogynist fantasies or being boors in front of an electronic audience may get the press, but that's not the focus of dissatisfaction for the "bitches."