>>>>Hi Michel.
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>>>>See message #1610601. I am offended by the language being used.
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>>>There's always been a double standard when it comes to language, and Mike Helland in general. I got a warning a few years back because I said "crap" in a thread. Mike gets away with a lot for some reason.
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>>Actually 'crap' is a 'polite' way of saying it. Derived for Thomas Crapper who developed one of the first flushing toilets via 'Going to the Crapper' => 'Going for a crap'
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>>Same with 'John' after Sir John Harington - though that didn't seem to develop the same extensions :-}
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>http://www.snopes.com/business/names/crapper.asp

Well, I did say 'one of the first'. - we've still got a 'Crapper' - installed about 1920 to replace the out-door '4 holer' in the garden (which is still there but doesn't get used much :-} )

Re: John Harington - until I read this : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Harington_(writer) I didn't know the origin of the word 'jakes'. Still heard here, especially in the North, but usually 'jaksie'